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This is the house that I lived in.

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I came here when my two youngest sons were probably 10, 12 years old.

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This is where they were wrestling.

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And they looked up and they saw it.

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And ran into their grandmother, who was babysitting for my two younger ones.

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And she didn't believe them.

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And she said not to tell me, because she didn't want to upset me.

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And I came home from that experience and said,

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I'm not going to tell them because I don't want to frighten them.

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So that when you people called and said, we were going to do this,

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I called my son and I said,

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I'm not going to tell them because I don't want to frighten them.

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But that's because when you people called and said we were going to do this,

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I called my son and I said,

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Guess what?

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Years ago, I saw this.

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He said, Mother, we saw that too.

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And I said, But you didn't tell me.

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He said, But you didn't tell us.

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So all these years, we never spoke of it.

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I'm Jane Green. I've lived in Great Barrington since I was 12 years old.

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We were a prominent family because of our story.

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We had the oldest Rexall pharmacy in the northeast.

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In this small town, you know, somebody changes their diet from a donut to a roast beef sandwich.

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Everybody in town knows it.

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My name's Tom Warner.

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The house I'm in now, we've been in for six generations.

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My son's been in the sixth generation.

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We've had the same very house since 1835.

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I was the youngest of seven children.

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A lot of things were happening back in 1969.

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America is really changing rapidly.

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Ten years old, you're changing too.

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My mother was from Hollis, Queens.

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So we had been raised in more of a city environment.

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When he moved here, it was more or less to assure a nice upbringing for the family.

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You know, it's Norman Rockwell feel.

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I had recently acquired a little restaurant called the Village Green in the middle of

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Schaafield, which was kind of a place where a lot of people gathered and met.

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I was a single mother and I was trying very hard to give the boys the idyllic kind of a life.

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I never felt like I belonged here.

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I always felt that there was, I was meant for something else.

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In 1969, it would have been just under 10.

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My name is Melanie Kurtstorfer.

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I've lived here since 1957.

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I was 12 years old in 1969.

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As kids, we would spend a lot of time on the main street.

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We were pretty wild.

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My sister and I had a friend that would steal cigarettes from her mom.

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So we wanted to go share a cigarette together that weekend.

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We did not want to get in a car with our parents and get ice cream.

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It was the last thing we wanted to do.

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I still to this day think about it, September 1st, 1969.

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My whole life changed right here.

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This was a moment that forever changed my life.

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Something weird took place here.

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We were a part of it.

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Fifty years ago, man.

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Fifty years ago.

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It was like it was just yesterday.

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It was just beyond dusk.

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It was getting really dark.

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When I was coming back from Stockbridge to Great Barrington,

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the only person in the car with me was Mary DeGrace, who's passed away now.

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She was my girlfriend.

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We were just the two of us.

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We were driving down and I saw a lot of lights.

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There must have been an accident.

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There must be a lot of police cars up there.

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Look at all the lights.

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As I got closer, I couldn't even drive anymore because the lights were so bright.

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So I pulled over to the side and I noticed the car in front of us pulled off to the side, too.

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And I got out of the car.

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My girlfriend got out of the car, too.

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I will never, if I get Alzheimer's, the one thing will stick in my mind.

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What happened?

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This huge object floated right there.

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And I couldn't see the end of it from the right or from the left.

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I can't tell you whether it was bronze or whether it was silver, whether it was gold.

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It was immense.

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And it was tall.

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But the bottom part, I didn't see windows.

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I didn't see anything.

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And most of all, there was no noise.

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There was no motor.

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There was nothing.

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It just was there.

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And these lights were coming in.

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And I just looked at it.

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And within a period of seconds, it lifted up, went this way, lifted up again, and went

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over the mountain.

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It was Labor Day.

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It was hot.

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It was a real hot day.

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I remember exactly where I was.

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I was doing artwork, coloring.

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My medium back then was Crayola.

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I'd always go next door to the Shaw's and Debbie, who was Jane's sister, would always

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instruct me how to stay in the lines and all that stuff.

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He always colored with my sister, who was four years older than Tommy.

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Tommy, Tommy, stay in the lines.

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Stay in the lines.

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I said stay in the lines.

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And that's what she would do with him.

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I've seen Tommy since the day he was brought home from the hospital.

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That night that he ran out, it scared the living heck out of us.

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Before I know it, it was getting a little later.

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And after I did the coloring, I walked over to this window.

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And this voice told me, you need to go home now.

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I just scared the daylight side of me.

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I mean, it was like commanding me to go home.

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And I said to Debbie, I said, Debbie, I have to go home.

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And she goes, why?

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I said, I don't know.

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Maybe God's talking me from those clouds.

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I don't know.

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And so I started bolting out the door.

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I could just feel this energy that was inside me, that was like fear from the mental telepathy

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that I just experienced.

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And my whole desire just to get from this point here to my house.

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And I was running full speed.

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And I remember just feeling like I was flying at this point.

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And he was like running right here in place, just constantly for about five minutes.

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He was running in place.

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I was running, but I wasn't moving.

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I just got a feeling that something was wrong.

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And I didn't know what it was, but it just gave me chills.

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Off to my left, there was a rock.

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And there was a path.

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And we were right on the path here.

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And the rock was just off to my left.

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And as I turned slowly, I turned and a UFO dropped right out of the sky, right in front

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of me.

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And a beam came on me.

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And as the light was on me, my hands jerked back like this.

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And it's like air got sucked out of me.

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The light came around him this way towards his left.

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And the next thing I know, he disappeared.

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And in a blink, in a flash, I was gone.

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Where did Tommy go?

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Can't find him.

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We went to the Dairy Queen to get our ice cream.

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And then we went up to Lake Mansfield.

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My father backed into the parking lot.

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And this brilliant bright aura came around.

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I could goosebumps thinking about it.

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And he looked up and he said, holy shit.

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And my mother is like, oh, Joey.

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And all of us kids are like, what is that?

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And starts screaming.

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He's like, oh, we got to chase this.

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And I'm like, no, no, no, please don't, please don't.

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And my mother's like, oh, it's just a shooting star.

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It's just, and I'm like, it's not just shooting star.

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Dad, please don't chase it.

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Please don't chase it.

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And he starts chasing it.

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My sister and I, we were like shaking.

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She said she doesn't remember anything after that.

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But I remember levitating.

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And then I remember being on a ship.

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I remember being laid out on it.

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That's when I saw Melanie.

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It was the only face I remember.

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She just was crouched to my right.

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I don't remember seeing him.

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But he said he remembers seeing my eyes.

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And then I was really scared.

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The look of, oh my god, fear.

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I was in a room with just young people.

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There were like children.

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And then they would just disappear one by one by one

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by one.

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And then I woke up and I was at the lake by myself.

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And then I had to walk home.

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The next thing I know, I'm being laid down at the other end

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of the property over here.

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And you can describe it as if you laid down a baby

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onto the ground.

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Just like that.

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And when I looked up, there was a beam on me.

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And with a beam on me, my brother was in back of me.

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And he said, run.

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And I couldn't run.

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I said, I can't.

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The beam's holding me on the ground.

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And then mental lepathy said, I'll be done in a minute.

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In a minute, the light beam went off.

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I rolled just slightly to my right.

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I stood up like this.

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I looked up.

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I turned around.

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And it was gone.

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By the time they picked him up or whatever they did and put

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him over here, it was seven minutes.

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I did not know Tom Warner.

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I was older than him.

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We ran with different crowds.

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When I met Tom for the first time,

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I felt an immediate connection to him.

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It was weird.

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It was very weird.

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Because I'd lived here my whole life,

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and I'd never really met him.

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And now I feel like he's a brother to me.

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On September 1, 1916, I was in the hospital.

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On September 1, 1969, I was riding in a horse show.

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It was a blistering hot day.

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I remember that.

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It was very hot, even, for that time of year.

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The saddle came loose, and I was holding on for dear life.

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And a few people came in to slow down the horse and stop it.

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And I had to run out and grab him.

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And at that point, she felt so thankful

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that I didn't get trampled or something.

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She could, you know what, let's go to dinner.

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And so we got to the diner.

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And it was running late.

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It was almost 9 o'clock, and it was almost bedtime.

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And so they decided to take the bridge, the shortcut home,

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through the Sheffields Bridge.

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Now, as we started through the covered bridge,

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Thomas was in the back seat with Matthew,

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his younger brother.

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He loved those little, what we call, fireballs,

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hot brown things.

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And he was going to give one to Matthew.

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And my mother heard that, and she turned around, and she said,

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He could choke.

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Don't give that to him.

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He's too young.

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And when she turned around and facing the back of the station

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wagon, she noticed what looked like a light rising

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from the banks of the Housatonic River.

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And as we exited the bridge, I can remember this like yesterday.

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There was a light ball hovering, maybe about two stories high.

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We were amazed.

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I mean, we'd never seen anything like it.

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It was glowing.

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And then as it rose, it fired these rods of light.

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Everyone was focused on this thing.

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But for some reason, my brother's tend to look to the right.

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My brother saw this orange orb, and it

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seemed to have this roll to it, almost like something,

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like an ocean wave is the way he describes it,

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kind of like the inside of this thing was moving and turning.

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As we're rolling along, the atmosphere got really close.

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Everything was dead quiet.

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We felt like we were under water.

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We could feel like a pressure change.

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So my mother, she pulled off to the side of the road.

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Windows were open.

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It was about 90 degrees that night.

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We all started looking out the side of the car.

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Grandma was looking out.

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Everyone was looking at, where is this white sphere

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that we saw moments ago?

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And then soon, then bang, my mother notices this thing

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first in the sky.

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And she's like, my god, what is that?

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There was a disc-shaped object hovering there.

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It looked something like, if you ever took a turtle shell

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and turned it sideways and looked at it, it was like that.

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And then it was a little shorter under here,

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but in the middle, there was a different ridge to it.

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The craft itself, I would say that it

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had to be at least 100 yards long.

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And we're staring at this thing out the window.

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And all of a sudden, the car is lit up.

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Inside, like the floodlights inside our car,

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I could see the dashboard.

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I could see the back of my grandmother's hair.

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I could see the radio.

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I remember this like it was yesterday.

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I could see my mother.

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Everything in the car was just like it was daylight.

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I mean, usually you hear some summer noises.

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And everything was deadly still and silent.

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Then all of a sudden, the chirping started loudly.

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The erupted crickets, everything.

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And that's the last I remember.

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That was it.

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Disruption of crickets and cadets and frogs

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and whatever it was seemed to affect the entire area,

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the wildlife.

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And then that's, bang, that's the last thing

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I remember being in the car.

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My fragmented memory of it, I can account for maybe 15 minutes.

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But it was over a three hour period.

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I have no memory of the lost time.

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I have none.

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And I wish I did in a way.

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Maybe it's just as well I don't.

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The next thing I remember is coming

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to in the front of the drug store.

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My mother was in the driver's seat.

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And I was in the passenger's seat, which was not the way it

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was when I turned the car off, obviously,

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because I had been driving.

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When we were placed back in the vehicle,

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I believe it was meant for us not to ever think

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that this happened.

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You know, that we just all passed out.

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We all fell asleep.

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Because everything was supposed to be exactly the way

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it was three hours earlier.

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But the mistake was my mother and grandmother were reversed.

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And the ignition was off.

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My grandmother never drove.

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My thinking is that we were at the wrong place

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at the wrong time.

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Three hours of time went by.

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Whatever happened to us, I don't know.

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Was there something extracted?

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Was something exchanged?

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Were we drugged up?

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I don't really know.

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Before this happened, I was a non-believer.

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And in any of that stuff, it just no way.

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Flying saucers.

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And I just did not believe it.

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I drove all the way into Great Barrington

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and pulled over where our store was.

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It's Main Street.

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Turned the car off and looked at my girlfriend and said,

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what just happened?

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So I ran in and I told my husband.

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And he said to go up and report it to the radio station.

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And I went in.

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And Tom Jay, who was the director of WSBS, started to laugh.

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And he said, you and Mary must be out drinking again.

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He said, I think it must have been swamp gas.

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I said, this was no swamp gas, Tom.

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And I explained it.

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A few hours later, he was inundated with calls

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from other people.

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Tom Jay, who was the radio personality for WSBS radio,

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actually heard the calls coming in over his ham radio.

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And there were so many of them that he actually

340
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had called the police department to see if they were hearing

341
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this as well.

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Got on the air and was asking if anyone saw this.

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Where was it?

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Does anyone know where it is?

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From Pittsfield to Stockbridge to Lenox to Igramot to Sheffield

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to Canaan, Connecticut.

347
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The calls were coming in from a multitude of towns

348
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by groups of people that in many cases had never met each other

349
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before.

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Your home town station in the Berkshires, 860 AM,

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94.1 FM, WSBS, streaming online worldwide at WSBS.com.

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And check us out on that.

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In 1969, I wasn't even thought of yet.

354
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I was born in 1983.

355
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A legend has it that strange occurrence that

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took place in September of 1969 was a UFO sighting.

357
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,520
I think it's unlikely that if you have all these people

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in this area, different states, different part of the county

359
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that are seeing it, I can't imagine

360
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,640
they're making it up or lying about it.

361
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Back then, the technology was much different than today.

362
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You record a newscast.

363
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And when you're done with that newscast,

364
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you don't really think about saving it the next day

365
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or two days after that news story is gone

366
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,960
in a race with the current news story.

367
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I wish I still had access to those tapes in 1969, not just

368
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for the radio station and for us having it,

369
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but just wish I could provide people with it and say,

370
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just to have a tangible object for people,

371
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because I know it's such a sought-after item.

372
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And it's unfortunate we don't have it,

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but I really wish we did.

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Daily public records of any police activity,

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and now they're open to the public,

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and we have to keep them forever.

377
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And fortunately, we do have them from 1969.

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I did find that day there's very little activity on there.

379
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It's basically one page.

380
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Then the evening shift, which is four to midnight,

381
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which I believe is when this incident happened,

382
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there's a young lady from the day shift turned up

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and was found, which was good.

384
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There's a report from a gentleman reporting trash

385
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and beer cans thrown on as long.

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He's upset about that, reported it

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to the police department.

388
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And actually, that was it.

389
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When I went looking for this,

390
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I thought maybe there'd be things on there.

391
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And I was very surprised that there isn't.

392
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I think the jury's out, as we say in my business,

393
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,040
I think the jury's out.

394
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,720
At least in my mind it is,

395
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,080
in terms of exactly what it was and what happened.

396
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,400
Well, when we started hearing about these abductions

397
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that took place years ago, to complete our archives,

398
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I decided to take a trip up here to the Berkshire Athenaeum.

399
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,400
We started with the Berkshire Eagle,

400
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which is the daily paper here,

401
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,320
to see if I could find any reference to it.

402
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,800
September 2nd was the day I started,

403
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,800
because that was the day after the initial abductions,

404
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,240
if you will.

405
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,480
And I ran through for about a whole month

406
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,080
and didn't find any reference in the Berkshire Eagle

407
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to any sightings.

408
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,040
I thought a lot about how come this didn't get reported.

409
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,520
And I suspect that people just thought

410
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,040
that it was a joke or a scam.

411
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I also talked to the former editor

412
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of a weekly paper in Gray Barrington.

413
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And he kind of laughed and he says,

414
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,120
oh yeah, I remember that,

415
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,560
but I thought it was a bunch of hooey,

416
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so I didn't put anything in the paper.

417
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MUSIC

418
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,640
That's my dad at Any cost of Ireland.

419
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,640
Up off the coast of Canada.

420
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,640
That's probably like about 25 years ago.

421
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,640
Got a deer, and they took that picture of him right there.

422
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,280
Beautiful picture.

423
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,400
People used to ask me if that was my father,

424
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,160
now people ask me if that's me.

425
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,860
I'm getting old and gray, you know.

426
00:25:59,860 --> 00:26:00,960
How are you doing today?

427
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,760
Good, how are you?

428
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,760
Good, getting stuff done?

429
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,160
Yeah, that's a day after.

430
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,760
I'm not sure the exact day, but it was right after it happened.

431
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,960
And people started coming in reporting it to my father,

432
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,560
who was chief of police at the time in Sheffield.

433
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,260
They'd say they saw a flying object in the sky

434
00:26:17,260 --> 00:26:18,760
that wasn't an airplane.

435
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,960
And it looked totally different and was lit up,

436
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,660
and they were round and lit up in silver.

437
00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:26,560
And they were going slow and landing in the fields

438
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,460
out here.

439
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,860
It's all farm fields over here by the road,

440
00:26:31,860 --> 00:26:33,560
all the way down into Connecticut.

441
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,760
Corn fields, hay fields, and they were landing in those fields

442
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,860
and taking off, and that's what people saw.

443
00:26:39,860 --> 00:26:43,260
They're like, whoa, they weren't airplanes, they said.

444
00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:47,060
They were round and they were silver.

445
00:26:47,060 --> 00:26:50,160
My father, he thought it was a bunch of bologna.

446
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,960
And me and my friends, because I knew all about it,

447
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,560
we started going out too on our own, just looking around,

448
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,960
camping out, sleeping in the car, watching.

449
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:01,760
Never got to see anything.

450
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,060
We went right to all the places, which I knew.

451
00:27:04,060 --> 00:27:06,860
We never got to see it myself, but we kept hearing about it

452
00:27:06,860 --> 00:27:08,360
and hearing about it and hearing about it.

453
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:11,560
Dad kept investigating it, so we knew it happened.

454
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:24,960
A number of people saw it.

455
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,160
We talk about it a little bit, maybe over a campfire

456
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,260
or something like that or close friends.

457
00:27:29,260 --> 00:27:32,160
And you tell the story and all of a sudden you feel bad

458
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,260
that you told the story because people kind of look at you

459
00:27:35,260 --> 00:27:36,960
kind of strange, you know?

460
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,260
And if you keep telling the story after a while,

461
00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:43,860
you're not going to have any friends, you know?

462
00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:45,960
You scare the hell out of everybody, you know,

463
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,960
especially as a teenager and young adult.

464
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,060
You know, I mean, people, they just,

465
00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:51,760
they don't want to hear it.

466
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,360
It's too scary.

467
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:58,660
You know, through high school, I didn't date girls,

468
00:27:58,660 --> 00:28:03,660
no one, you know, I did just, it was like I was the black plague

469
00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:06,360
or something.

470
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:09,560
It was nothing that was ever said,

471
00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:13,460
but I knew it because people don't have the answers

472
00:28:13,460 --> 00:28:15,960
for something, they have to blame it on something.

473
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,660
It's, you know, your imagination or whatever.

474
00:28:18,660 --> 00:28:20,460
Eventually I had to paint it.

475
00:28:20,460 --> 00:28:23,960
I just had to paint as close as I could to that night.

476
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,960
I never intended to show this painting.

477
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,960
I never intended to tell my story.

478
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,560
I think it was, it was kind of therapy

479
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,560
doing that painting for me.

480
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,560
And I suppose I just have that there to hold fast

481
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,560
to that night and remember, you know, we're not alone.

482
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,560
And it's something I'll never forget.

483
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,560
My sister always believed me,

484
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,560
so I was lucky to have my sister.

485
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,560
I had a boyfriend then that I could talk to about it.

486
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,560
My boyfriend would believe me then.

487
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,560
So he knew about it.

488
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,560
He's not alive now.

489
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,560
He's, he passed away, but they're the only ones

490
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,560
that knew about it.

491
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,560
I've always been one to be very honest and very open

492
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,560
and there's a part of me that needed to talk about it,

493
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,560
to need to share this, to, you know, get it off my chest,

494
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,560
if you will.

495
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,560
It wasn't like I was looking for attention, you know,

496
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,560
certainly not trying to capitalize on anything.

497
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,560
I was nine or 10 years old.

498
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,560
And we all were already outsiders to begin with,

499
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,560
so this wasn't obviously going to be received well

500
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,560
by my schoolmates.

501
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,560
When Tom went to school, he talked about it quite often.

502
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,560
That I think is part of why that it's important

503
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,560
that it's part of why the fights started in school.

504
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,560
Tom did take the front of it. He absolutely did.

505
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,560
I did not talk to a lot of people about it personally.

506
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:11,560
I just didn't because I had a feeling that it would go badly,

507
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,560
if you will.

508
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,560
Thomas was the most vocal of all of us.

509
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,560
It's the only reason we're having this conversation

510
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,560
is because he sticks to his guns about things.

511
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,560
Truth is truth and truth will come out every time.

512
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,560
We still had to live here.

513
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,560
We still had to face everybody during the day.

514
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,560
The difference in dynamics between my family being from

515
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,560
New York City and moving to the country,

516
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,560
and it just made it tough.

517
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,560
We used to get followed home down this road by a pickup truck.

518
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,560
They would tailgate me in a car as I was driving home.

519
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,560
One followed me all the way up the driveway one time.

520
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,560
I'll never forget that. I couldn't believe that.

521
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,560
There's one guy jumped up on a table once and exposed himself

522
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,560
and said,

523
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,560
well, if you want to see something out of this world, Nancy,

524
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,560
I'll show you something out of this world.

525
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,560
I mean, it got that foul, you know?

526
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,560
I don't think many people realize how much this devastated my mother.

527
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,560
It was very hard on her.

528
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,560
I mean, it's to the point where she had to sell the diner,

529
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,560
sell the house and move.

530
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,560
When you see your children being picked on constantly

531
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,560
and made fun of,

532
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,560
I closed the door on Sheffield at that point

533
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,560
because it broke my heart when we left there.

534
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,560
Literally, it still broke my heart when I think about it.

535
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,560
My mother wanted to move here because this was her Norman Rockwell,

536
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,560
and this turned into a Salvador dolly.

537
00:31:53,560 --> 00:32:00,560
I realized the frustration of people in the past

538
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,560
that have been saying that they've seen flying saucers,

539
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,560
or they've seen this or seen that,

540
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,560
and people doubt them because I was one of them.

541
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,560
I was so relieved that other people saw that

542
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,560
because I just didn't know what to do.

543
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,560
I was so relieved that I was one of them.

544
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,560
I was so relieved that other people saw that

545
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,560
because I just thought no one's going to ever believe me if I do mention it,

546
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,560
and I think that's part of the reason I never talked about it

547
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,560
because I didn't think people would believe me.

548
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,560
People in the military have seen this,

549
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,560
and there are people that are respected.

550
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,560
Yesterday, there was a New York Times article,

551
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,560
Training Navy Air Pylots up and down the East Coast

552
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,560
have seen flying objects that they could not identify.

553
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,560
There was two planes flying.

554
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,560
There were 100 feet apart, two jets flying,

555
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,560
and an object flew right between them at a very high speed.

556
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,560
It was in the Berkshire Eagle yesterday,

557
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,560
and this is a military reporting this.

558
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,560
Those guys are smart. They know what's going on.

559
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,560
You know, I mean, they're not going to make this up.

560
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,560
I mean, come on, something's going on.

561
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,560
Why isn't that coming out?

562
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,560
Why isn't it being more publicized?

563
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,560
Well, I guess it is right now. It's starting to be,

564
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,560
and it's about darn time.

565
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,560
What if the military's seeing it and seeing it?

566
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,560
It's happening.

567
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,560
Hello? I believe it.

568
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,560
Why would I make it up?

569
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,560
It wasn't fun. It wasn't pleasant.

570
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,560
It wasn't glorifying.

571
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,560
And why would anyone want to go through it?

572
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,560
I wouldn't want to be abducted.

573
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,560
It's not something that I would wish on anyone.

574
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,560
So if somebody wants to doubt it,

575
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,560
I don't blame them for doubting it.

576
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,560
I really don't blame them for doubting it.

577
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,560
Now, because I've come forward,

578
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,560
Melanie's bravely come forward,

579
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,560
Tom Reed's come forward,

580
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,560
some of these other people that were saying,

581
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,560
it's okay.

582
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,560
And now other people are coming forward.

583
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,560
I have not heard anybody

584
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,560
say no one approaches me now and says,

585
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,560
yeah, that's a bunch of baloney.

586
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,560
I live here. This is 182 years in the same house.

587
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,560
Why would I want to come forward to tell a story?

588
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,560
Well, I tend to embarrass myself,

589
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,560
so I go down into my main street and be ridiculed.

590
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,560
Or my son, or my wife,

591
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,560
who works at a local library here.

592
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,560
I didn't do this to hurt people.

593
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,560
I did it for one reason, to help people.

594
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,560
And I know there's a lot more people out there

595
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,560
that know things have gone on.

596
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,560
All you gotta do is sit up there and look at the sky,

597
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,560
and sooner or later you'll see something.

598
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,560
And not know what it was.

599
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,560
I just wish that everyone that sees this

600
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,560
really would open their minds.

601
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,560
Because I know the people that are being interviewed

602
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,560
are people just like everyone out there

603
00:35:53,560 --> 00:36:00,560
that probably at one time didn't believe, doubted.

604
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,560
And when this happens, there is no doubt.

605
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,560
I have no reason to, you know, make anything up.

606
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,560
I'm 85 years old, and this is...

607
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,560
this is not something that I expected to do

608
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,560
or ever talked about.

609
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,560
It's real. It's for real.

610
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,560
People have got to understand that.

611
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,560
Who the hell were they to question me?

612
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,560
I passed a polygraph test.

613
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,560
My word is my bond.

614
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,560
I don't break it for anybody.

615
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,560
I wear who I am on my sleeve.

616
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,560
You got something to say? Say it.

617
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,560
I don't care how you feel. I don't care what you think.

618
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,560
I was there. I was there.

619
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,560
I don't care what you think. I was there.

620
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,560
I was there.

621
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,560
I was there.

622
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,560
I was there.

623
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,560
You

624
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,560
You